Descendants of William SPALDING
Notes
Baptism: Scotland Old Parish Records - William SPALD (M)..................... C: 17 Jun 1787 Ba: C113894
Father: William SPALD Rattray, Perth, Scotland FR442 So: 1040134 Pr: 6902084Baptism: Rattray 17 June 1787 William Spald in Bonyton had a child baptised as William. FHL - 1040134
Baptism: William Spald
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Jun 1787
baptism/christening place: RATTRAY,PERTH,SCOTLAND
father's name: William Spald
indexing project (batch) number: C11389-4
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1040134Marriage: OPR William SPALDING (M).................. M: 18 May 1813 Ba: M112795 +
Spouse: Jean ANDERSON Coupar Angus, Angus, Scotland So: 993417Marriage: 18 May 1813, William Spalding, farmer in Balbiague and Jean Anderson both in this Parish (Coupar Angus). FHL - 993417
William was a farmer in the Blairgowrie area. He married Jean Anderson at the nearby Coupar Angus. Their two children were also baptised in Coupar Angus.
Marriage: OPR William SPALDING (M).................. M: 18 May 1813 Ba: M112795 +
Spouse: Jean ANDERSON Coupar Angus, Angus, Scotland So: 993417Marriage: 18 May 1813, William Spalding, farmer in Balbiague and Jean Anderson both in this Parish (Coupar Angus). FHL - 993417
OPR: Andrew SPALDING (M)................... C: 17 Aug 1813 Ba: C112795 +
Father: William SPALDING Coupar Angus, Angus, Scotland So: 993417
Mother: Jean ANDERSONBaptism: 17 August 1813, William Spalding farmer Blairgowrie and Jean Anderson had a lawful child baptised called Andrew. - FHL 993417
In the 1871 census Andrew was listed as unmarried and as a retired farmer living with his brother William and his aunty Cecilia. He has not been able to be located in any other Scotland census. However he is located in the USA.
Andrew travelled to the USA on a number of occasions as the following entries of an Andrew Spalding are recorded. This could explain why he is only in the 1871 Scottish census. In all cases he appeared to be travelling on his own.
Andrew Spalding, labourer aged 25 (est dob 1813) arrived New York, 18 June 1838 from Greenock on board the ship Roger Stewart.
Andrew Spalding, machinist, aged 58 (est dob 1813) arrived New York, 11 August 1871 from Glasgow on board the ship Australia.
As per the 1880 census of North Carolina it appears that Andrew married late in life to Jane. This is most likely the correct Andrew Spalding as he dies in Rockingham County, North Carolina.
In the 1880 US Census for Oregonville, Rockingham, North Carolina
Andrew Spalding Married, male, White, 67, Scotland, Farmer, parents both Scottish
Jane Spalding , wife, Married, female, White, 40, Scotland, Keeping house, parents both ScottishAndrew Spalding, farmer, born in Scotland, aged 78, from New York, New York, US to Glasgow arrived 4 August 1890 on ship "State of Georgia"
Andrew Spalding, farmer, aged 78 (est dob 1812) arrived New York, 2 October 1890 from Glasgow on board ship "State of Nebraska".
Burial:
Lick Fork Primitive Baptist Cemetery
Ruffin
Rockingham County
North Carolina, USA
Birth - Aug. 17, 1813 Forfar, Scotland
Death - Dec. 9, 1890
77yrs 3mos 22dys. He was born near Coupar, Angus, Scotland.
According to the census records Peter was recorded as being born in Angus Rattray (1851 census) or in Coupar Angus, Perthshire (1861 census). The 1841 census records Peter as not being born in Lanarkshire. Coupar Angus and Rattray are adjoining parishes almost on the border of Angus (Forfarshire) and Perthshire. Rattray is in Perthshire (near Blairgowrie) next to Coupar Angus. They are about 4 miles apart.
Peter's dates of birth are referenced as -
1841 Census 1786 - 1791 50 years (means usually 50-55)
1851 Census 1785 66 years
1861 Census 1783 78 years
Death Certificate 1784 78 years on 27 Jun 1862A picture of Thomas Spalding (b1819), Peter's first son, was sent to General George Spalding located in Monroe, Michigan, USA, by an Andrew Spalding in Blairgowrie, Scotland. The family information on the reverse of the picture clearly link Thomas Spalding (b1819), grocer of Larkhall, son of Peter, to General George Spalding, son of Andrew, as cousins.
Text from the reverse of a photo of Thomas Spalding, born in 1819 at Larkhall and who died in 1899 Larkhall.
"This is a photograph of Thomas Spalding who was a successful Grocer at Larkhall Lanarkshire Scotland & who died early in the nineties. He was a son of Peter Spalding who was a brother of Andrew Spalding the Father of General Spalding. Said Thomas Spalding was therefore a full cousin of General George Spalding. He has one daughter alive and 2 grandchildren - girls. He was a very religious man and highly respected in his town. I saw him often & know his family.Signed
Andrew Spalding
Blairgowrie
December 1906"This means that Peter had a brother Andrew. There are baptism records from the Rattray Parish church for both a Peter and Andrew as sons of William Spalding of Bonyton as follows:
Baptism: Rattray 6 June 1790 - William Spalden in Bonyton had a child baptised as Peter. FHL - 1040134
Baptism: Rattray 15 Oct 1791 - Wm Spaldin Boneyton had a child baptised as Andrew FHL C113894
(They were also siblings of William and Cecilia)William Spalding of Rattray married Margaret Smith on 26 August 1786 and so Peter's mother was most likely this Margaret.
Peter's parents being William Spalding and Margaret Smith are also reinforced by the the names given to Peter Spalding and Mary Thomson's children -
1st child Thomas - child's mother's father (Thomas Thomson)
2nd child William - child's father's father (William Spalding)
3rd child George - ?
4th child Peter - child's father (Peter Spalding)
5th child Mary - child's mother (Mary Thomson) (and child's mother's mother- Mary Brown)
6th child Margaret - child's father's mother (Margaret Smith)Peter (b1790) left Perthshire as a young man and moved to Hamilton, Lanarkshire where he married Mary Thomson in 1818. The Hamilton Parish Records show -
Marriage proclamation: Peter Spaldin and Mary Thomson both in this parish for two days 19 and 26 April 1818 - FHL 1066593Peter was a coal miner and also got involved in coal sales, and for a period as a blacksmith. Peter and Mary then moved to nearby London Street, Larkhall, Lanarkshire in the parish of Dalserf and had nine children. Peter died in 1862 in London Street, Larkhall when in his seventies. His parents were unknown by his third son, George.
No record in any Scotland census after 1841.
Andrew can only be found in the 1841 and 1851 census. As no death record can be found it is possible that Andrew travelled overseas. In the 1851 census he is living as a lodger with his brother George Spalding and his wife Marion.
An entry to New York could relate:
Andw Spalding, labourer, aged 23 (est dob 1829), arrived New York 29 June 1852 from Glasgow on board the ship Conway.In the 1880 Census for Putnam, New York is an Andrew Spalding, aged 52, Engineer from Scotland, married to Jane and son Alexander, aged 18 born in NY. This could be him.
Lillias' age keeps changing.
In the 1841 Dalserf she was listed as 7 (b1834),
In the 1851 Dalserf census she was listed as 14 (b1837),
In the 1861 census she was listed as 20 (b1841).
In the 1881 census she (Lillias Downs) is listed as 46 (b1835).
In her death certificate in 1883 she was listed as 48 (b1835)Thomas Spalding married Janet Downs and Thomas' younger sister Lillias Spalding married (second marriage) James Downs who was the youngest brother of Janet Downs. (Confirmed by Lillias's marriage certificate to James Downs).
Marriage: Scotland GRO 1868 STEWART DUNCAN SPALDING LILLIE LARKHALL LANARK 638/01 0007
Marriage: Scotland GRO 1868 STEWART DUNCAN SPALDING LILLIE LARKHALL LANARK 638/01 0007
Duncan was a tailor.
Death: cotland GRO 1877 STEWART DUNCAN M 37 LARKHALL /LANARK 638/01 0050
Dalserf Parish Records: Baptism James son of Robert Downes weaver Larkhall and Margaret Shearer spouses born in 6 November and baptised 1 December 1829. FHL - 1066587
Baptism: Scotland Old Parish Records: Andrew SPALDIN (M).................... C: 15 Oct 1791 Ba: C113894
Father: William SPALDIN Rattray, Perth, Scotland FR447 So: 1040134 Pr: 6902084
Text off record - "Oct 15 - Wm Spaldin Boneyton had a child baptised Andrew"Andrew born in Rattray in October 1791 went to the USA as proved by family comments (see below) on the back of the a photo of his nephew Thomas Spalding.
Marriage: Scotland Old Parish Records: Andrew SPALDING (M)................... M: 25 Sep 1824 Ba: M113326
Spouse: Isobella MORRIS Bendochy, Perth, Scotland So: 993519Andrew Spalding was born in Perthshire, Scotland in Oct 1791, and Isabella Morris, born April 1803, were married on 25 September, 1824 in Bendochy, Perthshire Scotland. They immigrated to Buffalo, New York, USA in 1843 with their six children (Isabella born 1 January 1825, Margaret born 1827, William born 9 May 1829, Andrew born 30 April 1833, George born 12 November 1836, and James born 1843) eventually settling in Monroe, MI in 1853. All the children were born in Perthshire, Scotland. No records of any of these children's birth or baptisms have yet been found. This family line claims two brigadier generals: George Spalding, who fought in the Civil war; and his son, George Redfield Spalding, a WW1 veteran and who was called from retirement to serve during WW2. The first two generations are documented in the Spalding Memorial.
Andrew, aged 45-49 a hand loom weaver, together with Isabella, aged 35-39 and their children Margaret, aged 14, William, aged 12, Andrew, aged 6 and George aged 3, are seen in the 1841 census of Bendochy, Perthshire Scotland.
Three US census records also relate to the family:
1850 Census July 22, 1850 - Buffalo Ward 1, Erie, NY - Page 35 Roll M432-501 - age 58, Boarding House
1860 Census July 10 1860 - Frenchtown, Monroe, Michigan - ED 423, page 119 - age 67 Occupation: Farmer
1870 Census August 8, 1870 - Frenchtown, Monroe, Michigan - ED 307, page 39 - age 78A picture of Thomas Spalding, the nephew of Andrew Spalding, was sent to General George Spalding located in Monroe, MI by Andrew Spalding of Blairgowrie, Perthshire Scotland. This picture was among General Spalding's papers that survived and that Shirley Langerman entrusted to Dean Spalding. The family information on the reverse of the picture clearly links Thomas Spalding, grocer of Larkhall to General George Spalding as cousins.
Text from the reverse of a photo of Thomas Spalding born 1819 Larkhall, died 1899 Larkhall.
"This is a photograph of Thomas Spalding who was a successful Grocer at Larkhall Lanarkshire Scotland & who died early in the nineties. He was a son of Peter Spalding who was a brother of Andrew Spalding the Father of General Spalding. Said Thomas Spalding was therefore a full cousin of General George Spalding. He has one daughter alive and 2 grandchildren - girls. He was a very religious man and highly respected in his town. I saw him often & know his family.Signed
Andrew Spalding
Blairgowrie
December 1906"The above mentioned brother of Andrew, Peter Spalding was baptised in Rattray, Perthshire, Scotland on 6 Jun 1790 as son of William Spalding and Margaret Smith and his above mentioned son Thomas (General George Spalding's cousin) was born in Larkhall, Lanarkshire in 1819. If can be then confidently assumed that this Andrew Spalding was the son of William Spalding and Margaret Smith and was baptised on 15 Oct 1791 in Rattray, Perthshire.
Andrew's parents names of William and Margaret can aslo be seen in his children's names.
Andrew Spalding and Isabella Morris' children's names were:
1st Isabella - child's mother's mother's name (also child's mother's name)
2nd Margaret - child's father's mother's name
3rd William - child's father's father's name
4th Andrew - child's mother's father's name (also child's father's name)
5th George
6th JamesAndrew Spalding (b 1791) was most likely named after his maternal grandfather, Andrew Smith.
From Dean Spalding's website:
The Spalding Family of Monroe Michigan
The descendants of Andrew Spalding and Isabella Morris.It is difficult to imagine what circumstances motivated Andrew at the age of 53 and Isabella aged 40 to pack up their belongings and together with their six children leave their native Scotland and start a new life in the United States, but move they did. After leaving Blairgowrie, Perthshire, Scotland they first settled in Buffalo, NY. This location suggests that the family probably entered the United States in New York City and then journeyed North up the Hudson River to Troy, NY. At Troy they most likely turned west on the Erie Canal which terminates on the Niagra River at Buffalo. No actual evidence verifies that the Spalding family took this route but the Erie Canal was a major artery for westward migration in the first half of the 19th century and it is easy to suppose that the Spalding family made use of the route.
The Spaldings lived in Buffalo, NY for ten years. During that period of time the three oldest children, Isabelle, Margaret and William married. In 1853 Andrew and Isabella, at the age of 63 and 50 respectively, along with the three youngest children, Andrew, George and James, again pulled up stakes and moved. This time to Monroe, Michigan, located on the westernmost shore of Lake Erie. Their daughter Isabelle with her husband Joseph Vivian and their three children apparently accompanied the elder Spaldings on their continued migration. The Vivians settled in Frenchtown, adjacent to Monroe, where they began a homestead.
Five years later, in 1858, the eldest son William and his wife Susan moved from Buffalo to Monroe. Presumably to be near his parents or to pursue a grander opportunity. We can never know. Of the original Spaldings only Margaret remained in Buffalo. This is how the Spaldings came to be in Monroe.
The Spalding family name dates to around 800 A.D. and is recorded in the Doomsday Book commissioned by William the Conqueror.Andrew's Obituary
Monroe Commercial
September 6, 1877
DIED At the residence of his son Andrew, in Petersburg, on the 1st inst., Andrew Spalding Esq., in the 88th year of his life.The late Andrew Spalding was born in Scotland in 1790, and came to this country with his wife and family in 1843. His first residence was at Buffalo, in the State of New York. During his stay in that city he was a constant attendant upon the ministry of Rev. Dr. Lord. He became a communicant of the Presbyterian Church over which Dr. Lord was pastor for more than one-third of a century. Mr. Spalding never withdrew his connections from this church. To his mind there appeared satisfactory reasons for the course pursued. The most cogent reason was found in his religious convictions and beliefs. They were all of Scotland type. Coming to this country at a time when divisions were taking place in the largest church organizations in the land, it was sensible that he should seek a home in that body most in sympathy with his religious convictions and doctrinal predilections. He knew what he believed an "in whom he believed," and no extraneous considerations could move him.
In 1853 Mr. Spalding moved to Monroe, Michigan, where he has continued to reside till the time of his death. His aged companion still lives and was able with all her surviving children - four sons and two daughters- to follow the remains of her venerated husband to their long rest in the burial ground in Monroe.
It can in truth be said that Mr. Spalding was an honest man, a kind husband, fond father, and a good citizen. He loved his adopted country; and when the times demanded, gave his sons to all the dread uncertainties of war for her defence. Gen. George Spalding and his brother James of this city, were of the sons of this aged man, and may they long live to cherish his memory and revere his name.
Andrew and Isabella are believed to be buried somewhere in Woodland Cemetery in Monroe, Michigan. There are two Spalding family burial plots well demarked by stone borders in Woodland Cemetery but neither plot has any headstones.
Death: Michigan Department of Health Death Index Page: 223
Text: Record Number: 135; Place of death: Summerfield; County of Death: Monroe
Andrew Spalding 87 died Aug. 29, 1877 at Summerfield of debility. Farmer. Married. Born in Scotland. Parents: unknown. Source: Monroe county death records.
Marriage: Scotland Old Parish Records: Andrew SPALDING (M)................... M: 25 Sep 1824 Ba: M113326
Spouse: Isobella MORRIS Bendochy, Perth, Scotland So: 993519
Isabella Morris, born April 1803, married 25 September, 1824 in Bendochy, Scotland, to Andrew Spalding, born in Perthshire, Scotland in 1790. They immigrated to the US in 1843.
There is an IGI reference and a Scotland Old Parish record of an Isabella Morris being baptised on 2 May 1803 in Bendochy, Perthshire, Scotland with parents John Morris and Agnes Baxter.
The Scotlands People record (O.P.R Births 332/00/ 0010 0329 Bendochy) gives
"1803 Bendochy. Isobel - Natural daughter to John Morris Servant in Cupergrange and Agness Baxter also a servant same place. Baptised 2 May 1803 - Morris"
These parents do not align with the parents given in Isabella's death registration of Andrew Morris and Isabella Morris although the date and place are correct. It is possible that the party giving the death records was not familiar with her parents names.
When looking at Isabella's children's names it would seem to be possible that she believed her parents names were Andrew and Isabella.
Andrew Spalding and Isabella Morris' children's names were:
1st Isabella - child's mother's mother's name (also child's mother's name)
2nd Margaret - child's father's mother's name
3rd William - child's father's father's name
4th Andrew - child's mother's father's name (also child's father's name)
5th George
6th James
1850 Census: July 22, 1850 - Buffalo Ward 1, Erie, NY - age 48
1860 Census: July 10, 1860 - Frenchtown, Monroe, Michigan - ED 423, page 119 - age 55
1870 Census: August 8, 1870 - Frenchtown, Monroe, Michigan - ED 307, page 39 - age 66
In an 1890 letter held by Kaye Watson from a Baxter relative it says … "Ann (Agnes) who lived till she was 97, died 19 years ago, she was never married, but had a daughter of the name of Bell Moris, she( Bell) married a man of the name of Andrew Spalding, they had a large family, they emigrated to America 47 years ago, they lived in Buffalo. . . there a daughter Margaret married a man Stevenson Hume, a Scotsman, by birth. . . the oldest daughter got married to a ship captain, her name was Isabela, her husband's name I forget. The two bought a farm for Andrew & Bell near Monroe in Mich. . . one of their family joined the northern army, . . . then took his youngest brother along with him. . ."
This letter is clearly talking about the Andrew Spalding and Isabella Morris family and confirms that Isabella's mother was Agnes Baxter.
From Dean Spalding's website:
Isabella Spalding's Obituary
Monroe Commercial
MAY 4, 1883
Mrs. Isabella Spalding who was stricken with paralysis last week, died at one o'clock A.M. last Friday, at the residence of her son Gen. George Spalding. Mrs. Spalding was born in April 1803, in Scotland, (her maiden name being Isabella Morris) where she spent the first forty years of her life. She was married to Andrew Spalding, also a native of Scotland, and where also all their children were born. They came to America in 1843, and to Monroe in 1853, where Mrs. Spalding has lived until her death. Six of their children grew to manhood five of whom are still living - Andrew and William at Petersburg, in this county, Mrs. S. Hume, at Buffalo, N.Y., and George and Mrs. Vivian, at Monroe. James S., who with his brother George served through the whole of the war, died in 1877. Mrs. Spalding had a wide circle of acquaintances in this city, and by all was known as a thoroughly good Christian woman, and there are not a few outside the circle of her family who will mourn her loss. The funeral was largely attended Sunday afternoon at the Presbyterian Church. Rev. Mr. Macomber conducting the services, assisted by Dr. Mattoon.
Andrew and Isabella are believed to be buried somewhere in Woodland Cemetery in Monroe, Michigan. There are two Spalding family burial plots well demarked by stone borders in Woodland Cemetery but neither plot has any headstones.
Death: Michigan Department of Community Health Page: Pg. 271
Record No. 59; Date of Record: 16 May 1884
Isabella Spalding died Apr. 27, 1883 at Monroe. At 80 years. Sex F. Cause: Paralysis. Birthplace: Scotland. Father: Andrew Morris. Mother: Isabella Morris. Source: Monroe county death records.
S. Hume married Margaret Spalding in Buffalo, NY sometime between 1843 and 1853.
Ref Elaine Jetter "Descendants of Andrew Spalding"
From Dean Spalding's website
Monroe Courier
Sept.27, 1877
Death of James W. SpaldingOn Friday afternoon last Mr. James W. Spalding, who was at the time at the residence of his father-in-law, Mr. Louis Lafountain, and had been suffering very much from sciatica in his arm, took a very heavy dose of laudanum to lull the pain. He had been in the habit of taking laudanum for this purpose. He told Mrs. Lafountain what he had done, remarking that he had taken enough to kill two men, but it seemed to have no effect on him. But some little time after, he was found to be in a very precarious condition, and a messenger was dispatched for Dr. Sawyer. Dr. Sawyer found him so far gone that he did not think it possible to save him, but gave him a powerful antidote, under the effect of which he rallied, and the next day got up and went down stairs, talked, ate, and seemed cheerful and likely to entirely recover. But later in the day he was taken worse, and died Saturday night. Mr. Spalding had had consumption for some years, one lung being almost gone, and it is supposed that paralysis of the lungs occurred, as a secondary effect of the laudanum. Mr. Spalding was 34 years of age. He entered the 18th Infantry as a private in 1862, and at the close of the war was mustered out of service as Major of the 12th Tennessee Calvary. In 1872 he was elected County Clerk, and served our people one term in that capacity. Mr. Spalding was buried with Masonic honors at 2 o'clock on Monday, from the residence of Mr. Lafountain, the services being conducted by Rev. Mr. Putnam. The funeral was very largely attended.
Excerpted from the total enrolment of the 18th Michigan infantry published in King's, Michigan in the Civil War:
Spalding, James W., Monroe. Enlisted in company K, Eighteenth Infantry, Aug. 13, 1862, at Monroe, for 3 years, age 19. Mustered Aug. 26, 1862. Sergeant Major Dec. 18, 1862. Discharged to accept promotion Oct. 8, 1863. Commissioned Second Lieutenant, company E, Sept. 28, 1863. Mustered Oct. 8, 1863. Discharged April 30, 1864, to accept promotion as Captain in Twelfth Tennessee Cavalry. Discharged at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, as Major, Oct. 7, 1865. Deceased.
1850 Census: July 22, 1850 - Buffalo Ward 1, Erie, NY - age 9
1860 Census: July 10, 1860 - Frenchtown, Monroe, Michigan - ED 423, page 119 - age 19
1870 Census: Monroe, Monroe County MI. aged 24 years old; his wife Julia is 23; clerk in a grist mill.
1860 Census - Julia Lafountain
residence Monroe, Michigan
ward Second Ward City Of Monroe
age 13 years
birthplace Michigan
gender Female
page 63
family number 502
dgs number 4232707
nara number M653
1870 Census Monroe, Monroe County MI. James is 27 years old; his wife Julia is 23
Julia's first husband was James Spalding, a clerk in Saginaw. He died young in 1877, and it is believed there were no children in this union.
Julia then married Charles L Ross
Marriage: Mrs. Julia A. LaFontaine Spalding, 29, b Dearborn, resident Monroe m 27 May 1879 Charles Ross, 26, resident Detroit (source: GSMC Marriage Records). The witnesses were Theodore Ilgenfritz and Mrs. Kate Ilgenfritz, both residents of Monroe.
Kate was Julia's sister.
After Julia's death her widower Charles Ross married her sister Ella LaFontaine Follett, and they had at least one child, Charles LaFontaine Ross.
