A reply from Richard Johnson about setting up axles for block control detection.

 

Hi Andrew

 

Yes, I do remember and thank you for the kind comment - we do try to "shrink the world" by working fast :-).

 

This is actually a conductor not a resistive paint.

 

I use the varnish / paint to make resistance axles, but I prefer to glue a tiny 0603 sized chip resistor on the axle first with a dab of epoxy or Loctite 608 (which is a black rubber filled superglue - fantastic stuff).

 

Using a separate resistor gives me better control of the final value, so is a bit more reliable with some detectors, and to be honest once you get in the swing of it you can do a hundred axles in a very short time.

 

Step one: glue the resistor on the axle close to the plastic sleeve that insulates the wheel

 

Step 2: paint the varnish from one pad to the wheel back, from the other pad to the axle.

 

Step 3: put axle in the truck - done. It conducts almost as soon as it's applied, so you can quickly test each truck as you do it. I just clip the meter to a bit of track, drop the truck on it and put a finger on it to simulate the car weight... takes seconds.

 

Only thing to watch is heavy blackening on the wheel - it can sometimes be an insulator - getting that off is more hassle than fixing the chip really. (Dremel does it quickly, wet& dry on a stick does it more tidily but is slower)

 

I also prefer to use this conductive varnish as I can also use it for other things - like as I said, gluing tiny 0.8mm golden whites to the cab roof, painting the wires with he silver paint and then over painting with "cab roof colour" so I have a light with NO wires needed - a nice neat job...

 

I have lots of the chip resistors (I buy reels of 10k) and they are super cheap, so would be happy to either source them for you if you want a value I don't have(they can be hard to get in small qty's) or send you a few if the value I have suits you. The cost is so small, a few would cost zero :-), never more than $2to $3 per hundred - and about the same to post.

 

The "sourcing" is something I do for many modellers that can't get stuff locally - more a "modeller to modeller" thing than part of the business.

 

Re the instruction, yes, I can translate a little of it for you. I guess you really want the key stuff only - what the solvents and cleaners are, the resistance per square cm, etc... There's not much else there to worry about I think - I'm home now, but I'll check at the office tomorrow and get Google to do the bits that stump me :-).

 

Regards

 

 

Richard

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: NCE-DCC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NCE-DCC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Keeney

Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:44 PM

To: NCE-DCC@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [NCE-DCC] Re: FW: Resistor Paint for Block Detection

 

Hi Richard,

I purchased white LEDs from you in the past and your service was excellent.  Thanks.

 

I'm asking this question on the list in case it might help others out.

 

Is this the type of resistance paint that can be used in place of a resistor on a wheel set for block detection?  I tried a paint in the past that would have created an actual short.

 

We need something that will allow just enough resistance for occupancy detection in a block.

 

Also, is this the German product that does not have any instructions in English?  If so, can you add the instructions in English?

 

Thanks and best,

 

Andy Keeney

Dewitt, MI

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--- In NCE-DCC@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Johnson" <rejohnson@o...>

wrote:

> 

> Gents

>

> if you have no luck I have a very high quality German made

conductive

> varnish ex stock at $A12 per vial. Its  a small and light item so

> international 1st class airmail would be very low - est $A3.00.

That'd make

> the total cost $A15 / approximately $USD 11.25. Paypal or card is OK

>

> Its good enough that I use it for wiring SMT LED's in coaches and

loco cabs.

> Please contact off list if U are interested.

>

> Richard Johnson

> DCCconcepts, Perth, West Australia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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